Round 11 · 2008

Hungaroring

Budapest, Hungary · August 03, 2008 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

Kings of this circuit
The race, in perspective

Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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20 stored results 20/20 Elo snapshots 20/20 numbered grid slots 0/20 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

Fit on 409 earlier finishes across 30 races, 1998–2008. No results from this race enter its expectation.

0/20 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/20 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P20vs expectedReading
H. KovalainenMcLaren #62290 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. GlockToyota #152046 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. RäikkönenFerrari #12398 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. AlonsoRenault #82229 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
L. HamiltonMcLaren #32374 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. Piquet Jr.Renault #132063 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. TrulliToyota #72241 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. KubicaBMW Sauber #52336 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. WebberRed Bull #92134 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. HeidfeldBMW Sauber #42337 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. CoulthardRed Bull #142062 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ButtonHonda #171988 No error range P12 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. NakajimaWilliams #122064 No error range P13 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. RosbergWilliams #102126 No error range P14 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. FisichellaForce India #191929 No error range P15 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. BarrichelloHonda #112093 No error range P16 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. MassaFerrari #22380 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
S. BourdaisToro Rosso #181965 No error range P18 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. SutilForce India #201835 No error range DNFBrakes Not assessedQualifying unavailable
S. VettelToro Rosso #162013 No error range DNFOverheating Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

Average absolute error on 409 classified finishes in 30 earlier races within the last ten years. Each race was held out and predicted using only older races; all three models use the same samples.

Elo + qualifying
2.54places
Qualifying only
2.63places
Elo only
3.02places

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo gain

Glock+79.4 Elo

Largest Elo loss

Massa−85.5 Elo

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Heidfeld+5 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Hamilton 62pts 0
  2. 2 Räikkönen 57pts +1
  3. 3 Massa 54pts −1
  4. 4 Kubica 49pts 0
  5. 5 Heidfeld 41pts 0

Movement since round 10. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇫🇮 H.Kovalainen 2 +1 +10 38 P6 +45.2 2,335
P2 🇩🇪 T.Glock 5 +3 +8 13 P10 +79.4 2,125
P3 🇫🇮 K.Räikkönen 6 +3 +6 57 P2 +14.9 2,413
P4 🇪🇸 F.Alonso 7 +3 +5 18 P8 +33.1 2,262
P5 🇬🇧 L.Hamilton 1 -4 +4 62 P1 +3.4 2,378
P6 🇧🇷 N.Piquet Jr. 10 +4 +3 13 P11 +47.1 2,110
P7 🇮🇹 J.Trulli 9 +2 +2 22 P7 +9.0 2,250
P8 🇵🇱 R.Kubica 4 -4 +1 49 P4 -13.3 2,323
P9 🇦🇺 M.Webber 8 -1 0 18 P9 +12.8 2,147
P10 🇩🇪 N.Heidfeld 15 +5 0 41 P5 -28.1 2,309
P11 🇬🇧 D.Coulthard 13 +2 0 6 P15 +10.5 2,073
P12 🇬🇧 J.Button 12 0 3 P17 +15.4 2,003
P13 🇯🇵 K.Nakajima 16 +3 0 8 P14 -4.5 2,060
P14 🇩🇪 N.Rosberg 14 0 8 P13 -22.5 2,103
P15 🇮🇹 G.Fisichella 18 +3 0 0 P19 +2.2 1,931
P16 🇧🇷 R.Barrichello 17 +1 0 11 P12 -31.5 2,062
DNF 🇧🇷 F.Massa 3 0 54 P3 -85.5 2,295
P18 🇫🇷 S.Bourdais 19 +1 0 2 P18 -25.2 1,940
DNF 🇩🇪 A.Sutil 20 0 0 P21 -15.3 1,819
DNF 🇩🇪 S.Vettel 11 0 6 P16 -47.3 1,965

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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