Round 13 · 2004

Hungaroring

Budapest, Hungary · August 15, 2004 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

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Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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20 stored results 20/20 Elo snapshots 20/20 numbered grid slots 0/20 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

Fit on 442 earlier finishes across 39 races, 1996–2004. No results from this race enter its expectation.

0/20 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/20 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P20vs expectedReading
M. SchumacherFerrari #12561 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. BarrichelloFerrari #22379 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. AlonsoRenault #42235 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. Pablo MontoyaWilliams #52229 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ButtonBAR #32348 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. SatoBAR #112090 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. PizzoniaWilliams #142020 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. FisichellaSauber #82165 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. CoulthardMcLaren #62208 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. WebberJaguar #92136 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
O. PanisToyota #161983 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. HeidfeldJordan #171980 No error range P12 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. KlienJaguar #152019 No error range P13 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. BruniMinardi #201864 No error range P14 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
Z. BaumgartnerMinardi #181923 No error range P15 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. PantanoJordan #191897 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. TrulliRenault #72200 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. ZontaToyota #122085 No error range DNFElectronics Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. MassaSauber #132071 No error range DNFBrakes Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. RäikkönenMcLaren #102124 No error range DNFElectrical Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

Average absolute error on 233 classified finishes in 19 earlier races within the last ten years. Each race was held out and predicted using only older races; all three models use the same samples.

Elo + qualifying
2.21places
Qualifying only
2.26places
Elo only
2.79places

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Bruni+5 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Schumacher 120pts 0
  2. 2 Barrichello 82pts 0
  3. 3 Button 65pts 0
  4. 4 Trulli 46pts 0
  5. 5 Alonso 45pts 0

Movement since round 12. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

Renault

AlonsoP3+35.3 Elo
TrulliDNF−61.7 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

BAR

ButtonP5+3.8 Elo
SatoP6+38.4 Elo

1 place apart at the finish.

Toyota

PanisP11+20.0 Elo
ZontaDNF−48.8 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇩🇪 M.Schumacher 1 +10 120 P1 +11.9 2,573
P2 🇧🇷 R.Barrichello 2 +8 82 P2 +21.9 2,401
P3 🇪🇸 F.Alonso 5 +2 +6 45 P5 +35.3 2,270
P4 🇨🇴 J.Pablo Montoya 7 +3 +5 38 P6 +28.9 2,258
P5 🇬🇧 J.Button 4 -1 +4 65 P3 +3.8 2,352
P6 🇯🇵 T.Sato 3 -3 +3 18 P9 +38.4 2,128
P7 🇧🇷 A.Pizzonia 6 -1 +2 4 P15 +43.2 2,063
P8 🇮🇹 G.Fisichella 8 +1 14 P10 +10.4 2,176
P9 🇬🇧 D.Coulthard 12 +3 0 19 P7 -4.3 2,204
P10 🇦🇺 M.Webber 11 +1 0 7 P12 +0.8 2,137
P11 🇫🇷 O.Panis 13 +2 0 5 P14 +20.0 2,003
P12 🇩🇪 N.Heidfeld 16 +4 0 3 P17 +13.1 1,993
P13 🇦🇹 C.Klien 14 +1 0 0 P20 -0.7 2,018
P14 🇮🇹 G.Bruni 19 +5 0 0 P23 +15.6 1,879
P15 🇭🇺 Z.Baumgartner 18 +3 0 1 P19 -0.0 1,923
DNF 🇮🇹 G.Pantano 17 0 0 P22 -3.6 1,894
DNF 🇮🇹 J.Trulli 9 0 46 P4 -61.7 2,139
DNF 🇧🇷 R.Zonta 15 0 0 -48.8 2,036
DNF 🇧🇷 F.Massa 20 0 5 P13 -53.7 2,017
DNF 🇫🇮 K.Räikkönen 10 0 18 P8 -70.5 2,054

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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