Round 10 · 2004

Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours

Magny Cours, France · July 04, 2004 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

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Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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20 stored results 20/20 Elo snapshots 20/20 numbered grid slots 0/20 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

Fit on 442 earlier finishes across 39 races, 1996–2004. No results from this race enter its expectation.

0/20 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/20 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P20vs expectedReading
M. SchumacherFerrari #12521 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. AlonsoRenault #72149 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. BarrichelloFerrari #22421 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. TrulliRenault #32291 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ButtonBAR #42291 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. CoulthardMcLaren #102118 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. RäikkönenMcLaren #82132 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. Pablo MontoyaWilliams #52165 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. WebberJaguar #152052 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. GenéWilliams #112086 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. KlienJaguar #181979 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. FisichellaSauber #62150 No error range P12 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. MassaSauber #122074 No error range P13 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. da MattaToyota #171987 No error range P14 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
O. PanisToyota #142067 No error range P15 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. HeidfeldJordan #132070 No error range P16 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. PantanoJordan #191920 No error range P17 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. BruniMinardi #201889 No error range P18 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
Z. BaumgartnerMinardi #162014 No error range DNFSpun off Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. SatoBAR #92126 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

Average absolute error on 233 classified finishes in 19 earlier races within the last ten years. Each race was held out and predicted using only older races; all three models use the same samples.

Elo + qualifying
2.21places
Qualifying only
2.26places
Elo only
2.79places

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo gain

Alonso+56.7 Elo

Largest Elo loss

Sato−71.2 Elo

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Schumacher 90pts 0
  2. 2 Barrichello 68pts 0
  3. 3 Button 48pts 0
  4. 4 Trulli 46pts 0
  5. 5 Alonso 33pts 0

Movement since round 9. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

BAR

ButtonP5+10.9 Elo
SatoDNF−71.2 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇩🇪 M.Schumacher 2 +1 +10 90 P1 +14.2 2,535
P2 🇪🇸 F.Alonso 1 -1 +8 33 P5 +56.7 2,206
P3 🇧🇷 R.Barrichello 10 +7 +6 68 P2 +8.8 2,430
P4 🇮🇹 J.Trulli 5 +1 +5 46 P4 +18.3 2,310
P5 🇬🇧 J.Button 4 -1 +4 48 P3 +10.9 2,302
P6 🇬🇧 D.Coulthard 3 -3 +3 12 P9 +33.1 2,151
P7 🇫🇮 K.Räikkönen 9 +2 +2 10 P11 +23.1 2,155
P8 🇨🇴 J.Pablo Montoya 6 -2 +1 25 P6 +9.9 2,175
P9 🇦🇺 M.Webber 12 +3 0 3 P15 +23.1 2,075
P10 🇪🇸 M.Gené 8 -2 0 0 P20 +9.6 2,096
P11 🇦🇹 C.Klien 13 +2 0 0 P19 +21.2 2,000
P12 🇮🇹 G.Fisichella 15 +3 0 10 P10 -16.7 2,133
P13 🇧🇷 F.Massa 16 +3 0 5 P12 -10.3 2,064
P14 🇧🇷 C.da Matta 11 -3 0 3 P14 -2.2 1,985
P15 🇫🇷 O.Panis 14 -1 0 5 P13 -23.7 2,044
P16 🇩🇪 N.Heidfeld 17 +1 0 3 P16 -31.5 2,038
P17 🇮🇹 G.Pantano 18 +1 0 0 P21 -13.5 1,907
P18 🇮🇹 G.Bruni 19 +1 0 0 P22 -16.3 1,872
DNF 🇭🇺 Z.Baumgartner 20 0 1 P18 -43.5 1,970
DNF 🇯🇵 T.Sato 7 0 14 P7 -71.2 2,055

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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