Round 11 · 1974

Nürburgring

Nürburg, Germany · August 04, 1974 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

Kings of this circuit
The race, in perspective

Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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32 stored results 32/32 Elo snapshots 26/32 numbered grid slots 0/32 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

This race has insufficient earlier history: 0/20 races and 0/200 classified finishes with Elo and qualifying. Estimates are withheld.

0/32 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/32 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P32vs expectedReading
C. RegazzoniFerrari #32349 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ScheckterTyrrell #12402 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. ReutemannBrabham #112156 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. PetersonTeam Lotus #72228 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. IckxTeam Lotus #52239 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. PryceShadow #182049 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. StuckMarch #291942 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. JarierShadow #132119 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. HillLola #122154 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. PescaroloBRM #241994 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. BellSurtees #321773 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. PaceBrabham #202022 No error range P12 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
V. BrambillaMarch #152093 No error range P13 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
I. AshleyToken #222000 No error range P14 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. HailwoodMcLaren #92187 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. MassSurtees #261986 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. HuntHesketh #251990 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
P. DepaillerTyrrell #82202 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. MerzarioIso Marlboro #192033 No error range DNFThrottle Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. BeltoiseBRM #142116 No error range DNFFuel system Not assessedQualifying unavailable
V. SchuppanEnsign #281955 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
E. FittipaldiMcLaren #22371 No error range DNFSuspension Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. LaffiteIso Marlboro #222000 No error range DNFSuspension Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. WatsonBrabham #102177 No error range DNFSuspension Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. LaudaFerrari #42331 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. HulmeMcLaren #62234 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. MigaultBRM #172070 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. SchenkenTrojan #301938 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. EdwardsLola #162092 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
L. PerkinsAmon #222000 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. AmonAmon #311900 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. GanleyMaki #271984 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

There is not enough earlier history for a rolling hold-out check yet.

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo gain

Bell+112.6 Elo

Largest Elo loss

Lauda−117.1 Elo

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Pescarolo+14 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Regazzoni 44pts +3
  2. 2 Scheckter 41pts +1
  3. 3 Lauda 38pts −2
  4. 4 Fittipaldi 37pts −2
  5. 5 Peterson 22pts 0

Movement since round 10. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

Lola

HillP9+35.3 Elo
EdwardsDNQ−85.7 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

Surtees

BellP11+112.6 Elo
MassDNF+32.8 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

Amon

PerkinsDNQ−67.6 Elo
AmonDNQ−49.8 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇨🇭 C.Regazzoni 2 +1 +9 44 P1 +44.8 2,394
P2 🇿🇦 J.Scheckter 4 +2 +6 41 P2 +28.5 2,430
P3 🇦🇷 C.Reutemann 6 +3 +4 14 P6 +76.3 2,232
P4 🇸🇪 R.Peterson 8 +4 +3 22 P5 +50.9 2,279
P5 🇧🇪 J.Ickx 9 +4 +2 12 P8 +41.2 2,280
P6 🇬🇧 T.Pryce 11 +5 +1 1 P18 +84.8 2,134
P7 🇩🇪 H.Stuck 20 +13 0 5 P13 +105.8 2,048
P8 🇫🇷 J.Jarier 18 +10 0 6 P12 +51.9 2,171
P9 🇬🇧 G.Hill 19 +10 0 1 P16 +35.3 2,190
P10 🇫🇷 H.Pescarolo 24 +14 0 0 P26 +72.0 2,066
P11 🇬🇧 D.Bell 25 +14 0 0 P28 +112.6 1,886
P12 🇧🇷 C.Pace 17 +5 0 3 P15 +50.6 2,073
P13 🇮🇹 V.Brambilla 23 +10 0 0 P25 +24.4 2,118
P14 🇬🇧 I.Ashley 20 +6 0 0 P33 +42.8 2,043
DNF 🇬🇧 M.Hailwood 12 0 12 P9 -14.6 2,172
DNF 🇩🇪 J.Mass 13 0 0 P31 +32.8 2,018
DNF 🇬🇧 J.Hunt 10 0 4 P14 +24.8 2,014
DNF 🇫🇷 P.Depailler 5 0 11 P10 -39.3 2,163
DNF 🇮🇹 A.Merzario 16 0 1 P19 -0.6 2,033
DNF 🇫🇷 J.Beltoise 15 0 10 P11 -30.1 2,086
DNF 🇦🇺 V.Schuppan 22 0 0 P36 +6.1 1,961
DNF 🇧🇷 E.Fittipaldi 3 0 37 P4 -104.0 2,267
DNF 🇫🇷 J.Laffite 21 0 0 P43 -19.3 1,981
DNF 🇬🇧 J.Watson 14 0 1 P17 -74.1 2,103
DNF 🇦🇹 N.Lauda 1 0 38 P3 -117.1 2,213
DNF 🇳🇿 D.Hulme 7 0 12 P7 -102.4 2,132
DNQ 🇫🇷 F.Migault 0 0 0 P30 -65.8 2,004
DNQ 🇦🇺 T.Schenken 0 0 0 P27 -38.0 1,900
DNQ 🇬🇧 G.Edwards 0 0 0 P20 -85.7 2,007
DNQ 🇦🇺 L.Perkins 0 0 0 P52 -67.6 1,932
DNQ 🇳🇿 C.Amon 0 0 0 P41 -49.8 1,850
DNQ 🇳🇿 H.Ganley 0 0 0 P22 -77.1 1,907

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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