Round 6 · 1963

Nürburgring

Nürburg, Germany · August 04, 1963 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

Kings of this circuit
The race, in perspective

Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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29 stored results 29/29 Elo snapshots 22/29 numbered grid slots 0/29 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

This race has insufficient earlier history: 0/20 races and 0/200 classified finishes with Elo and qualifying. Estimates are withheld.

0/29 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/29 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P29vs expectedReading
J. SurteesFerrari #52334 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ClarkLotus-Climax #12555 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. GintherBRM #42338 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. MitterPorsche #241954 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. HallLotus-BRM #72253 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. BonnierCooper-Climax #142178 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. BrabhamBrabham #132180 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. TaylorLotus-Climax #202051 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. SiffertLotus-BRM #112200 No error range DNFDifferential Not assessedQualifying unavailable
B. CollombLotus-Climax #231969 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. de BeaufortPorsche #92207 No error range DNFWheel Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. MaggsCooper-Climax #32345 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. GurneyBrabham #62323 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. CabralCooper-Climax #192051 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
I. BurgessScirocco #281868 No error range DNFSteering Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. SettemberScirocco #251934 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
B. McLarenCooper-Climax #172150 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. HillBRM #22487 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. AmonLola #82224 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
W. MairesseFerrari #152172 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
I. IrelandLotus-BRM #162159 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
L. BandiniBRM #102200 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. PiletteLotus-Climax #291865 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
I. RabyGilby #212012 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. ParnellLotus-Climax #182068 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. KuhnkeLotus-Borgward #271877 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
P. HillATS #221979 Grid unnumbered No error range DNSWithdrew Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. BaghettiATS #261914 Grid unnumbered No error range DNSWithdrew Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. GregoryLotus-BRM #122200 Grid unnumbered No error range DNSWithdrew Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

There is not enough earlier history for a rolling hold-out check yet.

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo gain

Mitter+184.3 Elo

Largest Elo loss

Gregory−175.5 Elo

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Mitter+11 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Clark 42pts 0
  2. 2 Surtees 22pts +2
  3. 3 Ginther 18pts −1
  4. 4 Hill 13pts −1
  5. 5 Gurney 12pts 0

Movement since round 5. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

ATS

HillDNS−74.3 Elo
BaghettiDNS−64.7 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Result Entries
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Highest Elo (Clark)
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Non-finishes

Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇬🇧 J.Surtees 2 +1 +9 22 P2 +84.1 2,418
P2 🇬🇧 J.Clark 1 -1 +6 42 P1 +21.0 2,576
P3 🇺🇸 R.Ginther 6 +3 +4 18 P3 +61.1 2,399
P4 🇩🇪 G.Mitter 15 +11 +3 3 P10 +184.3 2,138
P5 🇺🇸 J.Hall 16 +11 +2 3 P12 +66.9 2,320
P6 🇸🇪 J.Bonnier 12 +6 +1 3 P11 +82.8 2,261
P7 🇦🇺 J.Brabham 8 +1 0 3 P8 +71.1 2,251
P8 🇬🇧 T.Taylor 18 +10 0 1 P15 +107.7 2,158
DNF 🇨🇭 J.Siffert 9 0 1 P14 +42.1 2,242
P10 🇫🇷 B.Collomb 21 +11 0 0 P22 +114.1 2,083
DNF 🇳🇱 C.de Beaufort 17 0 1 P16 +18.0 2,225
DNF 🇿🇦 T.Maggs 10 0 8 P7 -39.1 2,306
DNF 🇺🇸 D.Gurney 13 0 12 P5 -43.1 2,280
DNF 🇵🇹 M.Cabral 20 0 0 P29 +42.1 2,094
DNF 🇬🇧 I.Burgess 19 0 0 P30 +89.7 1,958
DNF 🇺🇸 T.Settember 22 0 0 P20 +59.8 1,994
DNF 🇳🇿 B.McLaren 5 0 10 P6 -26.8 2,124
DNF 🇬🇧 G.Hill 4 0 13 P4 -140.4 2,346
DNF 🇳🇿 C.Amon 14 0 0 P18 -75.4 2,149
DNF 🇧🇪 W.Mairesse 7 0 0 P26 -67.4 2,105
DNF 🇬🇧 I.Ireland 11 0 3 P9 -73.6 2,086
DNF 🇮🇹 L.Bandini 3 0 2 P13 -99.4 2,101
DNQ 🇧🇪 A.Pilette 0 0 0 P35 +3.5 1,868
DNQ 🇬🇧 I.Raby 0 0 0 P32 -52.8 1,959
DNQ 🇬🇧 T.Parnell 0 0 0 P36 -83.4 1,984
DNQ 🇩🇪 K.Kuhnke 0 0 0 P37 -32.5 1,845
DNS 🇺🇸 P.Hill 0 0 0 P28 -74.3 1,905
DNS 🇮🇹 G.Baghetti 0 0 0 P31 -64.7 1,849
DNS 🇺🇸 M.Gregory 0 0 0 P23 -175.5 2,024

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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