Round 5 · 1961

Aintree

Liverpool, UK · July 15, 1961 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

The race, in perspective

Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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31 stored results 31/31 Elo snapshots 30/31 numbered grid slots 0/31 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

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Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

This race has insufficient earlier history: 0/20 races and 0/200 classified finishes with Elo and qualifying. Estimates are withheld.

0/31 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/31 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P31vs expectedReading
W. von TripsFerrari #72259 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
P. HillFerrari #12416 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. GintherFerrari #42270 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. BrabhamCooper-Climax #172055 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. BonnierPorsche #52263 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. SalvadoriCooper-Climax #122174 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. GurneyPorsche #22350 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
B. McLarenCooper-Climax #62260 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. BrooksBRM #221981 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
I. IrelandLotus-Climax #102239 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. GregoryCooper-Climax #132115 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
L. BandiniCooper-Maserati #182018 No error range P12 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. MaggsLotus-Climax #202000 No error range P13 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
I. BurgessLotus-Climax #261962 No error range P14 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. GreeneGilby #311839 No error range P15 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. de BeaufortPorsche #142079 No error range P16 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
W. SeidelLotus-Climax #301839 No error range P17 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ClarkLotus-Climax #32330 No error range DNFOil leak Not assessedQualifying unavailable
S. MossFerguson #82244 No error range DSQDisqualified Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. FairmanFerguson #281889 No error range DSQDisqualified Not assessedQualifying unavailable
L. BianchiLotus-Climax #271954 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. HillBRM #112211 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. BaghettiFerrari #92243 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. MarshLotus-Climax #231977 No error range DNFIgnition Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. SurteesCooper-Climax #162067 No error range DNFDifferential Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. ParnellLotus-Climax #291852 No error range DNFClutch Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. LewisCooper-Climax #241975 No error range DNFHandling Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. AshmoreLotus-Climax #202000 No error range DNFIgnition Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. TaylorLotus-Climax #152069 No error range DNFAccident Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. NatiliCooper-Maserati #202000 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
O. GendebienEmeryson #251969 Grid unnumbered No error range DNSWithdrew Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

There is not enough earlier history for a rolling hold-out check yet.

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo gain

Brabham+175.4 Elo

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Maggs+11 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 von Trips 27pts +1
  2. 2 Hill 25pts −1
  3. 3 Ginther 16pts +1
  4. 4 Moss 12pts −1
  5. 5 Baghetti 9pts 0

Movement since round 4. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

BRM

BrooksP9+145.1 Elo
HillDNF−135.9 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

Ferguson

MossDSQ−117.7 Elo
FairmanDSQ+47.6 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇩🇪 W.von Trips 4 +3 +9 27 P1 +119.2 2,378
P2 🇺🇸 P.Hill 1 -1 +6 25 P2 +49.3 2,465
P3 🇺🇸 R.Ginther 2 -1 +4 16 P3 +88.4 2,358
P4 🇦🇺 J.Brabham 9 +5 +3 4 P8 +175.4 2,231
P5 🇸🇪 J.Bonnier 3 -2 +2 2 P12 +65.0 2,328
P6 🇬🇧 R.Salvadori 13 +7 +1 1 P15 +91.6 2,266
P7 🇺🇸 D.Gurney 12 +5 0 9 P6 +5.0 2,355
P8 🇳🇿 B.McLaren 14 +6 0 3 P11 +26.5 2,287
P9 🇬🇧 T.Brooks 6 -3 0 0 P18 +145.1 2,126
P10 🇬🇧 I.Ireland 7 -3 0 3 P9 +9.7 2,248
P11 🇺🇸 M.Gregory 16 +5 0 0 P21 +54.5 2,169
P12 🇮🇹 L.Bandini 21 +9 0 0 P25 +88.5 2,106
P13 🇿🇦 T.Maggs 24 +11 0 0 P26 +83.8 2,084
P14 🇬🇧 I.Burgess 25 +11 0 0 P28 +88.2 2,050
P15 🇬🇧 K.Greene 26 +11 0 0 P29 +126.0 1,965
P16 🇳🇱 C.de Beaufort 18 +2 0 0 P23 +6.2 2,085
P17 🇩🇪 W.Seidel 22 +5 0 0 P30 +99.5 1,939
DNF 🇬🇧 J.Clark 8 0 8 P7 -132.5 2,197
DSQ 🇬🇧 J.Fairman 20 0 0 +47.6 1,936
DSQ 🇬🇧 S.Moss 20 0 12 P4 -117.7 2,127
DNF 🇧🇪 L.Bianchi 30 0 0 P32 -0.2 1,954
DNF 🇬🇧 G.Hill 11 0 1 P14 -135.9 2,075
DNF 🇮🇹 G.Baghetti 19 0 9 P5 -163.0 2,080
DNF 🇬🇧 T.Marsh 27 0 0 P34 -50.3 1,927
DNF 🇬🇧 J.Surtees 10 0 2 P13 -106.6 1,961
DNF 🇬🇧 T.Parnell 29 0 0 P36 -23.5 1,828
DNF 🇬🇧 J.Lewis 15 0 0 P20 -88.5 1,886
DNF 🇬🇧 G.Ashmore 26 0 0 P37 -113.4 1,887
DNF 🇬🇧 H.Taylor 17 0 0 P22 -159.8 1,909
DNF 🇮🇹 M.Natili 28 0 0 P39 -139.7 1,860
DNS 🇧🇪 O.Gendebien 0 0 3 P10 -138.2 1,830

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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