Round 9 · 1980

Hockenheimring

Hockenheim, Germany · August 10, 1980 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

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The race, in perspective

Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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26 stored results 26/26 Elo snapshots 24/26 numbered grid slots 0/26 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

This race has insufficient earlier history: 0/20 races and 0/200 classified finishes with Elo and qualifying. Estimates are withheld.

0/26 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/26 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P26vs expectedReading
J. LaffiteLigier #102270 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
C. ReutemannWilliams #32397 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. JonesWilliams #12439 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. PiquetBrabham #22437 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
B. GiacomelliAlfa Romeo #192083 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. VilleneuveFerrari #132262 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. AndrettiTeam Lotus #162130 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. MassArrows #142249 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. PatreseArrows #62304 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. DalyTyrrell #72289 No error range P10 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. ProstMcLaren #152151 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. SurerATS #182088 No error range P12 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. ScheckterFerrari #92282 No error range P13 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. LammersEnsign #251956 No error range P14 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. JarierTyrrell #122264 No error range P15 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
E. de AngelisTeam Lotus #202079 No error range DNFWheel bearing Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. WatsonMcLaren #82285 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. JabouilleRenault #222005 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. ArnouxRenault #52326 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
E. CheeverOsella #261919 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. PironiLigier #42373 No error range DNFTransmission Not assessedQualifying unavailable
E. FittipaldiFittipaldi #112266 No error range DNFBrakes Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. RosbergFittipaldi #212045 No error range DNFWheel bearing Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. RebaqueBrabham #172098 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. KeeganWilliams #231985 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. ErtlATS #241974 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

There is not enough earlier history for a rolling hold-out check yet.

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo loss

Pironi−106.5 Elo

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Giacomelli+14 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Jones 41pts 0
  2. 2 Piquet 34pts 0
  3. 3 Reutemann 26pts +2
  4. 4 Laffite 25pts +2
  5. 5 Arnoux 23pts −2

Movement since round 8. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

Ligier

LaffiteP1+82.7 Elo
PironiDNF−106.5 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

McLaren

ProstP11+31.1 Elo
WatsonDNF−52.6 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

ATS

SurerP12+38.8 Elo
ErtlDNQ−50.7 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇫🇷 J.Laffite 5 +4 +9 25 P4 +82.7 2,353
P2 🇦🇷 C.Reutemann 4 +2 +6 26 P3 +44.6 2,441
P3 🇦🇺 A.Jones 1 -2 +4 41 P1 +27.7 2,467
P4 🇧🇷 N.Piquet 6 +2 +3 34 P2 +19.9 2,457
P5 🇮🇹 B.Giacomelli 19 +14 +2 4 P14 +97.7 2,180
P6 🇨🇦 G.Villeneuve 16 +10 +1 4 P15 +43.7 2,305
P7 🇺🇸 M.Andretti 9 +2 0 0 P19 +69.5 2,199
P8 🇩🇪 J.Mass 17 +9 0 4 P12 +30.4 2,280
P9 🇮🇹 R.Patrese 10 +1 0 7 P7 +8.5 2,312
P10 🇮🇪 D.Daly 22 +12 0 6 P9 +3.9 2,293
P11 🇫🇷 A.Prost 14 +3 0 4 P16 +31.1 2,182
P12 🇨🇭 M.Surer 13 +1 0 0 P21 +38.8 2,127
P13 🇿🇦 J.Scheckter 21 +8 0 2 P18 -19.0 2,263
P14 🇳🇱 J.Lammers 24 +10 0 0 P26 +51.8 2,008
P15 🇫🇷 J.Jarier 23 +8 0 4 P13 -31.0 2,233
DNF 🇮🇹 E.de Angelis 11 0 6 P8 +8.1 2,087
DNF 🇬🇧 J.Watson 20 0 3 P17 -52.6 2,232
DNF 🇫🇷 J.Jabouille 2 0 0 P24 +8.7 2,014
DNF 🇫🇷 R.Arnoux 3 0 23 P5 -79.3 2,247
DNF 🇺🇸 E.Cheever 18 0 0 P29 +9.3 1,929
DNF 🇫🇷 D.Pironi 7 0 23 P6 -106.5 2,266
DNF 🇧🇷 E.Fittipaldi 12 0 5 P10 -89.0 2,177
DNF 🇫🇮 K.Rosberg 8 0 4 P11 -41.4 2,003
DNF 🇲🇽 H.Rebaque 15 0 0 P22 -62.4 2,036
DNQ 🇬🇧 R.Keegan 0 0 0 P25 -44.6 1,940
DNQ 🇦🇹 H.Ertl 0 0 0 P33 -50.7 1,924

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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