Top 3
Beat the estimateNo comparable estimates available for this race yet.
Round 11 · 1984 · 5 Aug
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Hockenheimring
Hockenheim, Germany
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Elo × qualifying → race result
Experimental · v1
Did they beat the expectation?
Model & data
A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both pre-race Elo and qualifying, then compares it with what happened.
Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.
This race has insufficient earlier history: 0/20 races and 0/200 classified finishes with Elo and qualifying. Estimates are withheld.
27 stored results
27/27 Elo snapshots
26/27 numbered grid slots
0/27 qualifying results
Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible in the full grid. A grid position is not used as a qualifying result.
0/27 entrants have an estimate. Not enough earlier history to estimate this race.
Flop 3
Below the estimateNo comparable estimates available for this race yet.
0/27 entrants assessed. DNFs excluded. How we rank
Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.
| Driver | Pre-race Elo | Qualifying | Expected | Result | P1 ← position → P27 | vs expected | Reading |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A. ProstMcLaren | #42295 | — | —No error range | P1 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| N. LaudaMcLaren | #32299 | — | —No error range | P2 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| D. WarwickRenault | #62210 | — | —No error range | P3 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| N. MansellTeam Lotus | #112163 | — | —No error range | P4 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| P. TambayRenault | #102170 | — | —No error range | P5 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| R. ArnouxFerrari | #22311 | — | —No error range | P6 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| A. de CesarisLigier | #132115 | — | —No error range | P7 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| F. HesnaultLigier | #261930 | — | —No error range | P8 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| H. RothengatterSpirit | #221981 | — | —No error range | P9 | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| S. JohanssonTyrrell | #202008 | — | —No error range | DSQDisqualified | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| M. WinkelhockATS | #192023 | — | —No error range | DNFGearbox | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| E. CheeverAlfa Romeo | #231958 | — | —No error range | DNFEngine | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| T. FabiBrabham | #172074 | — | —No error range | DNFTurbo | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| N. PiquetBrabham | #52247 | — | —No error range | DNFGearbox | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| R. PatreseAlfa Romeo | #182034 | — | —No error range | DNFFuel system | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| P. GhinzaniOsella | #142089 | — | —No error range | DNFElectrical | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| J. GartnerOsella | #241952 | — | —No error range | DNFTurbo | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| M. AlboretoFerrari | #72189 | — | —No error range | DNFEngine | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| J. PalmerRAM | #211997 | — | —No error range | DNFTurbo | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| K. RosbergWilliams | #92173 | — | —No error range | DNFElectrical | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| J. LaffiteWilliams | #122131 | — | —No error range | DNFEngine | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| T. BoutsenArrows | #162078 | — | —No error range | DNFEngine | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| E. de AngelisTeam Lotus | #12403 | — | —No error range | DNFTurbo | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| P. AlliotRAM | #251942 | — | —No error range | DNFOverheating | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| A. SennaToleman | #82187 | — | —No error range | DNFAccident | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| M. SurerArrows | #152084 | — | —No error range | DNFTurbo | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable | |
| M. ThackwellTyrrell | #271874 | — Grid unnumbered | —No error range | DNQDid not qualify | — | Not assessedQualifying unavailable |
How useful is the model? See the historical check
There is not enough earlier history for a rolling hold-out check yet.
The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.
Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.
The rating ledger
What changed in Elo?
These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.
Hesnault+82.8 Elo
de Angelis−124.6 Elo
Rothengatter+15 places
The bigger picture
Championship after this round
Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.
- 1 Prost 44.5pts 0
- 2 Lauda 39pts 0
- 3 de Angelis 29pts 0
- 4 Arnoux 25pts 0
- 5 Warwick 23pts +1
Movement since round 10. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.
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Teammate results
Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.
McLaren
ProstP1+49.3 Elo
LaudaP2+41.4 Elo
1 place apart at the finish.
Renault
WarwickP3+53.1 Elo
TambayP5+48.3 Elo
2 places apart at the finish.
Team Lotus
MansellP4+57.1 Elo
de AngelisDNF−124.6 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Ferrari
ArnouxP6+10.8 Elo
AlboretoDNF−47.8 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Ligier
de CesarisP7+47.5 Elo
HesnaultP8+82.8 Elo
1 place apart at the finish.
Tyrrell
JohanssonDSQ+51.7 Elo
ThackwellDNQ−40.5 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Alfa Romeo
CheeverDNF+48.8 Elo
PatreseDNF+10.4 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Brabham
FabiDNF+15.0 Elo
PiquetDNF−32.6 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Osella
GhinzaniDNF−9.8 Elo
GartnerDNF+14.6 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
RAM
PalmerDNF−9.3 Elo
AlliotDNF−32.7 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Williams
RosbergDNF−58.2 Elo
LaffiteDNF−55.4 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
Arrows
BoutsenDNF−49.6 Elo
SurerDNF−79.4 Elo
Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.
What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you
This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.
Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).
Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.
Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.
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