Round 12 · 1984

Red Bull Ring

Spielberg, Austria · August 19, 1984 · Circuit History · Wikipedia

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The race, in perspective

Race debrief

What did we expect after qualifying—and who beat it?

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27 stored results 27/27 Elo snapshots 25/27 numbered grid slots 0/27 qualifying results
Elo × qualifying → race result

Did they beat the expectation?

A strong driver recovering from a poor qualifying position isn't automatically a surprise. This model estimates a finish from both inputs, then compares it with what happened.

Experimental · v1

Expected finish assumes a classified finish. DNFs stay in the full grid but receive no performance verdict. Qualifying is not the starting grid; grid differences are flagged, not silently substituted.

This race has insufficient earlier history: 0/20 races and 0/200 classified finishes with Elo and qualifying. Estimates are withheld.

0/27 entrants have an estimate. Missing Elo or qualifying stays visible below; a grid position is not used as a qualifying result.

Top 3

Beat the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

Flop 3

Below the estimate

No comparable estimates available for this race yet.

0/27 entrants assessed. Up to three per side, ranked by expected minus actual finish. DNFs, missing estimates and gaps rounding to 0.0 are excluded. “Flop” means below the model's estimate—not poor driving. A ranked gap can still be inside the usual error range.

Full grid: pre-race Elo rank, qualifying position, estimated finish, actual result and difference from expectation. Positive differences mean finishing ahead of the estimate.
DriverPre-race EloQualifyingExpectedResultP1 ← position → P27vs expectedReading
N. LaudaMcLaren #22341 No error range P1 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. PiquetBrabham #82214 No error range P2 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. AlboretoFerrari #102141 No error range P3 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. FabiBrabham #132089 No error range P4 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
T. BoutsenArrows #202029 No error range P5 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
M. SurerArrows #232005 No error range P6 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. ArnouxFerrari #32322 No error range P7 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
F. HesnaultLigier #212013 No error range P8 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. PalmerRAM #251987 No error range P9 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
R. PatreseAlfa Romeo #192044 No error range DNFOut of fuel Not assessedQualifying unavailable
P. AlliotRAM #271910 No error range P11 Not assessedQualifying unavailable
G. BergerATS #242000 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
P. TambayRenault #72218 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. SennaToleman #122090 No error range DNFOil pressure Not assessedQualifying unavailable
N. MansellTeam Lotus #62220 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. ProstMcLaren #12344 No error range DNFSpun off Not assessedQualifying unavailable
E. de AngelisTeam Lotus #42278 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
H. RothengatterSpirit #182046 No error range NCNot classified Not assessedQualifying unavailable
E. CheeverAlfa Romeo #222006 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
D. WarwickRenault #52263 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
A. de CesarisLigier #92162 No error range DNFInjection Not assessedQualifying unavailable
K. RosbergWilliams #112115 No error range DNFHandling Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. LaffiteWilliams #152076 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
J. GartnerOsella #261967 No error range DNFEngine Not assessedQualifying unavailable
P. GhinzaniOsella #142079 No error range DNFGearbox Not assessedQualifying unavailable
S. BellofTyrrell #162065 Grid unnumbered No error range DSQDisqualified Not assessedQualifying unavailable
S. JohanssonTyrrell #172060 Grid unnumbered No error range DNQDid not qualify Not assessedQualifying unavailable
How useful is the model? See the historical check

There is not enough earlier history for a rolling hold-out check yet.

The range scales the 80th percentile of earlier held-out absolute errors to this field size, rounding outward. It is an empirical error guide, not a guaranteed 80% chance for a particular driver. We require at least five checked races and 100 checked finishes before showing it.

Inputs are field-normalised Elo rank and qualifying position. The target is position among all race entries, trained only on classified finishers. Estimates are averages, not a unique predicted finishing order. Penalties, the circuit, weather, incidents and strategy aren't model inputs. Historical qualifying coverage is patchy; this is an exploratory backtest on corrected records, not proof of live forecasting accuracy.

The rating ledger

What changed in Elo?

These are actual rating changes. The expectation model above does not change Elo or fantasy scoring.

Largest Elo gain

Boutsen+83.9 Elo

Largest grid-to-finish gain

Palmer+15 places

The bigger picture

Championship after this round

Top five in the stored standings. Points include sprint results where applicable.

  1. 1 Lauda 48pts +1
  2. 2 Prost 44.5pts −1
  3. 3 de Angelis 29pts 0
  4. 4 Arnoux 25pts 0
  5. 5 Piquet 24pts +2

Movement since round 11. A dash means the earlier standing is unavailable.

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Across the garage

Teammate results

Two-driver constructor entries from this race. A result comparison, not an adjustment for strategy or reliability.

McLaren

LaudaP1+41.1 Elo
ProstDNF−65.4 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

Renault

TambayDNF−18.5 Elo
WarwickDNF−77.9 Elo

Non-finish recorded; no finishing gap comparison.

What this analysis can—and cannot—tell you

This debrief is calculated from stored results and rating snapshots. The experimental expectation model learns from earlier races only, using Elo rank and qualifying together; it never feeds back into Elo. It is not a separately reviewed race report.

Elo uses the result order, including retirements. It does not isolate driver skill from the car, reliability, penalties or strategy. Elo seed comparisons use pre-race ratings, never today's ratings. Equal ratings share the midpoint of their rank range (for example, tied first and second become seed 1.5).

Grid gains use numbered starting slots and classified finishes only. Zero or missing grid values are excluded; a position gained is not necessarily an overtake. Qualifying gaps use the latest segment both teammates have a valid time for, never Q1 against Q3.

Lap-by-lap pace, tyre stints, pit-stop execution and safety-car effects are not available in this report. Missing data is omitted, not inferred.

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Non-finishes

Race

Qualifying

# Driver Grid +/- Points Season Pts Season # Elo Change Elo
P1 🇦🇹 N.Lauda 4 +3 +9 48 P1 +41.1 2,382
P2 🇧🇷 N.Piquet 1 -1 +6 24 P5 +60.1 2,274
P3 🇮🇹 M.Alboreto 12 +9 +4 15.5 P8 +70.6 2,211
P4 🇮🇹 T.Fabi 7 +3 +3 7 P12 +76.4 2,165
P5 🇧🇪 T.Boutsen 17 +12 +2 5 P14 +83.9 2,112
P6 🇨🇭 M.Surer 19 +13 +1 1 P19 +82.4 2,087
P7 🇫🇷 R.Arnoux 15 +8 0 25 P4 +2.1 2,324
P8 🇫🇷 F.Hesnault 21 +13 0 0 P21 +66.5 2,079
P9 🇬🇧 J.Palmer 24 +15 0 0 P24 +65.2 2,053
DNF 🇮🇹 R.Patrese 13 0 3 P16 +44.9 2,089
P11 🇫🇷 P.Alliot 25 +14 0 0 P27 +67.6 1,977
DNF 🇦🇹 G.Berger 20 0 0 P28 +41.2 2,041
DNF 🇫🇷 P.Tambay 5 0 10 P9 -18.5 2,200
DNF 🇧🇷 A.Senna 10 0 9 P10 +5.3 2,096
DNF 🇬🇧 N.Mansell 8 0 9 P11 -32.9 2,187
DNF 🇫🇷 A.Prost 2 0 44.5 P2 -65.4 2,279
DNF 🇮🇹 E.de Angelis 3 0 29 P3 -59.7 2,218
NC 🇳🇱 H.Rothengatter 26 0 0 P26 -12.0 2,034
DNF 🇺🇸 E.Cheever 16 0 3 P15 -9.7 1,997
DNF 🇬🇧 D.Warwick 6 0 23 P6 -77.9 2,186
DNF 🇮🇹 A.de Cesaris 18 0 3 P17 -61.7 2,100
DNF 🇫🇮 K.Rosberg 9 0 20.5 P7 -57.1 2,057
DNF 🇫🇷 J.Laffite 11 0 5 P13 -54.6 2,021
DNF 🇦🇹 J.Gartner 22 0 0 P31 -36.1 1,931
DNF 🇮🇹 P.Ghinzani 23 0 2 P18 -69.5 2,009
DSQ 🇩🇪 S.Bellof 0 0 0 P30 -73.2 1,992
DNQ 🇸🇪 S.Johansson 0 0 0 P33 -78.9 1,981

Qualifying results are not available for this race.

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